AUDIO: How They Did It—Conversation with True the Vote's Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips

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April 16, 2022 RUMBLE EXCULSIVE: True the Vote Charlie Kirk Interview Part 1: A Ballot Laundering ‘Cartel’

True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht & Gregg Philips sat down with Charlie Kirk for an illuminating hour long interview detailing their ultra high-tech investigation into an “organized crime” ballot trafficking operation that swung the 2020 election for Joe Biden. 

The drop box stuffing activity followed a consistent pattern, Gregg explained. Every operation involved “a set of collectors, a collection point or stash house for all the ballots, the bundling of those ballots, and then the casting of those ballots by, what we were calling, ‘mules’ in the drop boxes.”

“And as we began put the pieces and parts together, it really did dawn on us: 'Well, this sounds like what's happening in Atlanta or in San Luis, Arizona’... This was a conspiracy. This was organized crime,” he emphasized.

Catherine describes the “fateful moment” when she turned to Gregg and asked, “How do we take down a cartel?”

“That's when we began to use the terms like stash houses, and drop points, and mules, and trafficking, and voter abuse because that's what we're looking at,” she continued. 

Focusing on six states, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Texas, True the Vote spent $2 million to buy publicly available cell phone data that can pinpoint an individual’s location to within a few inches. They then narrowed their search to targets who began visiting drop boxes and NGO offices during the early voting weeks leading up to November 3rd, activity that was contrary to their prior “pattern of life.” In Georgia, the threshold was at least two dozen trips to drop boxes and five visits to a non-profit. 

Catherine described their filtering logic, they wanted parameters that were “outside the norm, so aberrant that it would just stick out like a sore thumb in terms of a dataset… We wanted to have such clear margins, such clear lines that we finally settled on groups that were going [to the drop boxes] in Georgia an average of 23 times — so distinctive.  And, as Gregg points out, they also had to go to the NGOs — so they had to meet both those criteria a certain number of times for us to really drill down and study.”

Through open records requests, True the Vote acquired and drop box surveillance video (when available), which helped them confirm the trafficking activity. They also evaluated chain of custody documents to identify what a typical day looked like at a given drop box. Those records showed normal ballot drop data punctuated by “spikes” in ballot receipts. This information helped them home in on specific dates and times buried in their 4 million minutes of footage. 

“This is how money laundering works,” Charlie observed. “This is not just a one-off thing, this is not some Democrat activist that really wanted Trump gone and might have had a couple friends do this. This was a machine.”

“Which state was the worst offender?,” asked Charlie. “Pennsylvania,” Gregg stated unequivocally. “The worst in every way: 1,155 people met our criteria… in Philadelphia.”

“What's even more insane,” Catherine said, “is watching the data, watching the pings come across the bridge in New Jersey and into Philly.” The traffickers actually crossed state lines to participate in the fraud. And it wasn’t just in Philadelphia. Two mules in Arizona made their way to Georgia for the runoffs. And a bartender in South Carolina came in to “help out” in Atlanta, Gregg added.

Even more disturbing, the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSA) knew about the systematic ballot stuffing and did nothing. “We learned that there were off-duty law enforcement officers, paid for by the Republican Party, that reported all of this. And [the NRSA] just covered it up,” Gregg said.

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'RIGGED' — An In-Depth Examination of the 2020 Election with David BossieThe Charlie Kirk Show: On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie dives deep into the multiple discrepancies and outright instances of obvious fraud surrounding the election of 2020 which gave us the inept, incompetent, and frankly embarrassing Biden White House. He reviews the latest out of Arizona which was revealed this week by Attorney General Mark Brnovich and gives an overview of what we can expect to see come out of the Grand Canyon State moving forward. He also talks about the revelations unearthed in Dinesh D' Souza's bombshell film '2,000 Mules' and how no one who watches it could possibly deny real-life election interference.  Next, he's joined by David Bossie of Citizens United for a close look at his latest film, 'Rigged: The Zuckerberg-Funded Plot to Defeat Donald Trump' where they walk through the Mark Zuckerberg-funded takeover of federal elections in 2020. Be sure to share this episode with anyone who doubts that American elections are not secure and subscribe so you never miss an update on the fight for election integrity.

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